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There are other things going on with the Wiki run by the WikiMedia foundation, some joint ventures, exchanges.

WikiPedia

Wikipedia is a collaboratively editedmultilingualfree Internet encyclopedia supported by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation.

WikiSpecies

Wikispecies is a wiki-based online project supported by the Wikimedia Foundation. Its aim is to create a comprehensivefree content catalogue of all species and is directed at scientists, rather than at the general public. Jimmy Wales—chairman emeritus of the Wikimedia Foundation—stated that editors are not required to fax in their degrees, but that submissions will have to pass muster with a technical audience.[1][2]

WikiData

Wikidata is a collaboratively edited knowledge base operated by the Wikimedia Foundation. It is intended to provide a common source of certain data types (for example, birth dates) which can be used by Wikimedia projects such asWikipedia.[2][3] This is similar to the way Wikimedia Commons provides storage for media files and access to those files for all Wikimedia projects

A rose is a rose is a rose, right?

WikiPedia

A rose is Rosa, the genus, in the family Rosaceae, in the order Rosales, in the unranked clade Rosids, in the unranked clade Eudicots, in the unranked clade Angiosperms, in the Plant kingdom.

WikiSpecies

A rose is Rosa, the genus, in the tribe Roseae, in the subfamily Rosoideae, in the family Rosaceae, in the order Rosales, in the unranked clade Eurosids I, in the unranked clade Rosids, in the unranked clade Core eudicots, in the unranked clade Eudicots, in the unranked clade Angiosperms, in the Plant kingdom.

WikiData

A rose is Rosa, the genus, in the tribe Roseae, in the subfamily Rosoideae, in the family Rosaceae, in the order Rosales, in the unranked clade Eurosids I, in the unranked clade Rosids, in the unranked clade Core eudicots, in the unranked clade Eudicots, in the unranked clade Angiosperms, in the Plant kingdom.

This is not too bad; as expected the WikiSpecies and WikiData entries are denser, containing all possible ranks. In practice, not all ranks are used even in the scientific literature. Families are important in Angiosperms and classes are important among the chordates, but a data repository should include all of the ranks.

What happens when we click on all these plant links about roses in the different locations?

WikiPedia

The Rosales has nine families: Barbeyaceae, Cannabaceae, Dirachmaceae, Elaeagnaceae, Moraceae, Rhamnaceae, Rosaceae, Ulmaceae, Urticaceae.

WikiSpecies

The Rosales has the same nine families: Barbeyaceae – Cannabaceae – Dirachmaceae – Elaeagnaceae – Moraceae – Rhamnaceae – Rosaceae – Ulmaceae – Urticaceae.

WikiData

(nothing)

On WikiData there is not list of child taxa. Maybe we should look at the parent taxon of the Rosales, instead?

WikiPedia

Parent taxon is rosids.

WikiSpecies

Parent taxon is eurosids I, then  rosids.

WikiData

Parent taxon is, or, rather parent taxa are Rosanae, fabids, Rosidae, eurosids I, Dialypetaleae, Calyciflorae, Archichilamydeae.

WikiData has so many parent taxa because it includes all parent taxa for the Rosales in all past taxonomic systems, Cronquist 1981, APG II 2003, Wettstein 1935, Bentham and Hooker 1962, and Engler 1924. However, the taxon Rosales, on WikiData, is the the taxon described in APG III in 2009. It is not the Rosales described in Cronquist in 1981; it is not the Rosales as circumscribed by the APG II in 2003; it is not the Rosales that Engler circumscribed and published in 1924; these other parent taxa are the parent taxa to those circumscriptions of the Rosales.

WikiData is idiocy and has no understanding of taxonomy.

Well, let’s move up a bit and see what the parent taxa for WikiSpecies look like. It looks okay, until we get to the Angiosperms, which is a redirect to Magnoliopsida. This is cited to various sources. APG III does not use the term “Magnoliopsida.” Friedrich A. Lohmueller uses the class Magnoliopsida, but puts it in the angiosperms and ties it to the APG III, which does not use the class Magnoliopsida. Stevens does not use the term on his website. The WikiSpecies website has APG III orders; APG III uses the term angiopserm, and does not, as I just said, mention magnoliopsida; but the WikiSpecies article has APG III orders, calls the containing claid the magnoliopsida, then ties it to citations that contain different order defined in different ways then their modern usage, Cronquist 1981 does not have these same orders, neither does Dahlgren 1985, or Engler 1930, or Lindley 1830, or Takhtajan 1997.

WikiSpecies is run by an independent and argumentative taxonomist who is not a botanist, but is a strict follower of Linnean taxonomies; the modern taxonomic system in use by botanists is not strictly Linnean, so, the scientist is making stuff up to fit his vision of botany!

WikiData botany is run by an editor who is also extremely argumentative, and, like the WikiSpecies editor, had been banned from editing WikiPedia, so had to turn to WikiData. This editor also thinks he/she, like the WikiSpecies editor, is the only human being on the planet earth who understands taxonomy and can correctly classify the plants. On WikiData, he/she is taking a single taxon and making it multiple, because of a lack of understanding that a description of a taxon changes with different taxonomic systems.

Exactly how is WikiPedia going to integrate this cluster muck? WikiPedia is mostly following the most current and universally accepted system of plant taxonomy. WikiSpecies is making up a taxonomy based on one argumentative scientist who disagrees with the rest of the world. WikiData doesn’t have a taxonomy, it’s just a bunch of information put all in one place; it’s like you said, stack the plates here and the bowls here, and, instead of stacking anything, you threw all the pottery in a green garbage bag, then threw it in the corner and ate dinner out of pots at the table.

Way to go, WikiMedia Foundation!

 

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